[Alpine-info] Reading Teams messages in Alpine? (NN mentioned
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Eduardo Chappa via Alpine-info
alpine-info at u.washington.edu
Wed Oct 8 09:13:20 PDT 2025
On Wed, 8 Oct 2025, Thomas Gramstad via Alpine-info wrote:
>
> At work a lot of people seem to be moving away from E-mail to
> sending messages in Teams. I receive notes by e-mail that a new
> Teams message has been sent to me, but it seems that I must login
> into Teams in order to actually read the message. But still the
> Teams message seems to be some kind of Microsoft 365 mail
> message.
Here is the key question you need an answer to: Can these messages be read
through the web interface of Outlook? (please notice I said "web interface
of Outlook", I did not say "web interface of Teams"). As of this time the
answer does not matter from the perspective of Alpine, but it does matter
from the perspective of how the message is treated internally by
Microsoft.
Even though one could make the argument that a message in Teams is
equivalent to an email message. I think of messages in Teams as "chat",
not as emails (which could be handled by replying to group/person or saved
or forwarded, printed, etc.). To me it seems that Teams messages are not
as rich as emails, so I doubt that a Teams message can be handled in the
web interface in Outlook, but I would love to be proved wrong, because as
you have clearly identified it, that is a useful thing.
The other difficulty that you will have is an unexpected difficulty. It
turns out that apps need permissions to access resources. That is the
beauty and drama of XOAUTH2. The Microsoft apps have permission to access
Microsoft resources, and this is seamless to you, but other apps have to
be given permission by the user and by the administrator of the server.
The last point is where you will find trouble. Will your administrator
allow an app that they do not know, that was not written with the purpose
to access Teams, access a portion of Teams? This is where fears of
security enters the game. Most administrators will deny you that because
they do not know the app you are using and Microsoft keeps telling them
not to allow other apps if they have access to the resource through the
Microsoft app, which is secure and respects the privacy of their users.
Now you see where I am going? You are stuck to using the Microsoft app to
do this.
This is an uphill battle. Unless there is a protocol published by
Microsoft to allow access (and in general handling) of messages in Teams
through the web interface of Outlook, there is no hope of doing that.
Why is there any hope if the access is through the web interface of
Outlook? Because that is a protocol that Alpine could be programmed to
access. It is much easier to convince an administrator that you want to
use an email program to read email than to convince an administrator to
use an email program to read Teams. That in theory could be done, but we
are not there yet.
I hope this helps.
--
Eduardo
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