From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Sat Jul 12 09:15:55 2025 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (George Gutman via Alpine-info) Date: Sat Jul 12 09:16:10 2025 Subject: [Alpine-info] Gmail to Mbox format Message-ID: Is there any other way to export Gmail folders into Mbox format than Google's Takeout? Using Takeout the resulting Mbox files show a very different number of messages than the original Gmail folders, and they will not sort by the date they show (which is my Alpine setting). There is something very wrong with these files. I had asked this earlier but got distracted from responses. George -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Sat Jul 12 10:09:34 2025 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (Damion Yates via Alpine-info) Date: Sat Jul 12 10:09:38 2025 Subject: [Alpine-info] Gmail to Mbox format In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Saturday, 12 July 2025, George Gutman via Alpine-info < alpine-info@u.washington.edu> wrote: > Is there any other way to export Gmail folders into Mbox format than > Google's Takeout? Using Takeout the resulting Mbox files show a very > different number of messages than the original Gmail folders, and they will > not sort by the date they show (which is my Alpine setting). There is > something very wrong with these files. I had asked this earlier but got > distracted from responses. > You can pull down email via IMAP, this is probably easier using a syncing tool but even Alpine can do this itself. You'd have to leave it for a while, but it should be possible to select all and save into another location for each folder (label). I use offlineimap which writes out as Maildir format, and my Alpine is patched for Maildir support. But I'm pretty sure this is trivially convertible and I also think there are other syncing tools that should be able to write in mbox format, although xoauth2, might be a bit of a hindrance. - Damion -- Damion Yates - damion.yates@gmail.com London, England -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Sat Jul 12 11:44:19 2025 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (Mats Dufberg via Alpine-info) Date: Sat Jul 12 11:44:28 2025 Subject: [Alpine-info] Gmail to Mbox format In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <939be181-ae32-611c-025d-afb23276a1f8@dufberg.se> Is it possible for your client to be connected to both Gmail and some other IMAP server that you have control of? That IMAP server could be running on your local computer. If so, you could configure your IMAP server to store the email in mbox format, and copy alla messages from Gmail to the other IMAP server. That said, do you really want to use mbox format? It is probably inferior to many other formats. Yours, Mats On 2025-07-12, 09:15 (-0700) George Gutman via Alpine-info Is there any other way to export Gmail folders into Mbox format than > Google's Takeout? Using Takeout the resulting?Mbox files show a very > different number?of messages than the original Gmail folders, and they > will not sort by the date they show (which is my Alpine setting). There > is something very wrong with these files. I had asked this earlier but > got distracted from responses. > > ? ?George ------------------------------------------------------ | Mats Dufberg | mats@dufberg.se | | Sp?nga kyrkv?g 618 | +46 8 38 48 59 | | SE-16362 Sp?nga, Sweden | +46 70 258 25 88 | ------------------------------------------------------ From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Sat Jul 12 14:34:54 2025 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (Lucio Chiappetti via Alpine-info) Date: Sat Jul 12 14:35:07 2025 Subject: [Alpine-info] Gmail to Mbox format In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, 12 Jul 2025, George Gutman via Alpine-info wrote: > Is there any other way to export Gmail folders into Mbox format than > Google's Takeout? Are you talking of saving messages in one or more Gmail folder into local folder of your preferred format ? If you can define a folder collection (Alpine M S L) pointing to Gmail (I have one defined as Folders on imap.gmail.com:993/ssl/notls/user=xxxxxxx in [Gmail]/ You can enter one of the folders therein (*), select the messages of interest and use aggregate command (A S) to save them as a block to a local folder (or a folder elsewhere) (*) note however that non-default folders in Gmail have name quirks. This is not important to me, as I use the above folder collection only once every day to cleanup the Bin folder, and to check the Spam one. (the above folder collections shows me only these entries but NOT the Gmail inbox: All Mail[/] Bin[/] Drafts[/] Important[/] Sent Mail[/] Spam[/] Starred[/] ; I have a folder in the incoming folders pointing to the Gmail inbox (and to as couple of inboxes of other providers, say A and B. But in general the Gmail inbox is empty as I instructed Gsuite to forward all mail to the A provider inbox, which is almost instantaneous. Also the A provider inbox is usually empty, as it is fetched by fetchmail very 5 minutes to a local inbox. So, I do not know of ways to export entire folders as an atomic operation, but Aggregate Commands can be used to svae/move all messages in a folder to any other folder. -- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Corti 12 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) For more info : http://www.iasf-milano.inaf.it/~lucio/personal.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "All that is google does not glitter Nor all who use alpine/procmail are lost" From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Sat Jul 12 15:12:07 2025 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (Mats Dufberg via Alpine-info) Date: Sat Jul 12 15:12:16 2025 Subject: [Alpine-info] Gmail to Mbox format In-Reply-To: References: <939be181-ae32-611c-025d-afb23276a1f8@dufberg.se> Message-ID: If you use Alpine for accessing the Gmail mail you can also create a local mailbox on your computer and copy the messages from Gmail to local mailbox. For alpine on Linux and FreeBSD mbx format is faster than mbox format, and it also possible to access the maibox with two alpine processes at the same time, if needed. I have no experience of Alpine on Windows, but I would expect the same to be true there. Yours Mats On 2025-07-12, 14:48 (-0700) George Gutman wrote: > I've got Alpine installed on my Windows machine at home, can I do this > with Alpine? > > And I used Alpine as my main email for years until the machine(s) became > unavailable and I have years of messages in Mbox format which I've > gotten used to. Would there be a compelling reason to change formats? > > ? ?George > > On Sat, Jul 12, 2025 at 11:44?AM Mats Dufberg wrote: > Is it possible for your client to be connected to both Gmail and some > other IMAP server that you have control of? That IMAP server could be > running on your local computer. If so, you could configure your IMAP > server to store the email in mbox format, and copy alla messages from > Gmail to the other IMAP server. > > That said, do you really want to use mbox format? It is probably inferior > to many other formats. > > Yours, > Mats > > > On 2025-07-12, 09:15 (-0700) George Gutman via Alpine-info > > Is there any other way to export Gmail folders into Mbox format than > > Google's Takeout? Using Takeout the resulting?Mbox files show a very > > different number?of messages than the original Gmail folders, and they > > will not sort by the date they show (which is my Alpine setting). There > > is something very wrong with these files. I had asked this earlier but > > got distracted from responses. > > > > ? ?George > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > | Mats Dufberg? ? ? ? ? ? |? ? ? ? ? mats@dufberg.se | > | Sp?nga kyrkv?g 618? ? ? |? ? ? ? ? ?+46 8 38 48 59 | > | SE-16362 Sp?nga, Sweden |? ? ? ? ?+46 70 258 25 88 | > ------------------------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------------------------ | Mats Dufberg | mats@dufberg.se | | Sp?nga kyrkv?g 618 | +46 8 38 48 59 | | SE-16362 Sp?nga, Sweden | +46 70 258 25 88 | ------------------------------------------------------ From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Wed Jul 16 06:30:10 2025 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (Ferdinand Goldmann via Alpine-info) Date: Wed Jul 16 06:30:30 2025 Subject: [Alpine-info] Filter patterns and whitespace Message-ID: Hi, wanted to filter out annoying spam mails using a filter rule on the domain of the spam sender. The spam mails From fields all have the format of From: Annoying Sender@foo.host.com where the "@foo.host.com" part is always the same. It turns out that a rule filtering for foo.host.com does not work. I assume the problem is the single blank/whitespace between "Annoying" and "Sender". Is there any possibility to filter such mails? Or should I rather ask the spam senders to politely use a valid RfC compliant format for their From addresses? :-) Regards Ferdinand -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 6023 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature URL: From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Wed Jul 16 07:28:00 2025 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (Joshua Miller via Alpine-info) Date: Wed Jul 16 07:28:00 2025 Subject: [Alpine-info] Filter patterns and whitespace In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Can you share the relevant lines from your .pinerc? FWIW, I have rules that match on FROM that include a space and they work. For example: LIT:pattern="/NICK=tt/FROM=TT SYSTEM /...etc... On Wed, Jul 16, 2025 at 9:31?AM Ferdinand Goldmann via Alpine-info < alpine-info@u.washington.edu> wrote: > Hi, > > wanted to filter out annoying spam mails using a filter rule on the domain > of > the spam sender. The spam mails From fields all have the format of > > From: Annoying Sender@foo.host.com > > where the "@foo.host.com" part is always the same. > > It turns out that a rule filtering for foo.host.com does not work. I > assume the > problem is the single blank/whitespace between "Annoying" and "Sender". > > Is there any possibility to filter such mails? Or should I rather ask the > spam > senders to politely use a valid RfC compliant format for their From > addresses? :-) > > Regards > Ferdinand_______________________________________________ > Alpine-info mailing list > Alpine-info@u.washington.edu > http://mailman23.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/alpine-info > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Wed Jul 16 10:40:24 2025 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (Carlos E. R. via Alpine-info) Date: Wed Jul 16 10:40:32 2025 Subject: [Alpine-info] Filter patterns and whitespace In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4d1c0e2d-0a2c-421e-9bf1-84a2871d10fc@telefonica.net> On 2025-07-16 15:30, Ferdinand Goldmann via Alpine-info wrote: > Hi, > > wanted to filter out annoying spam mails using a filter rule on the > domain of > the spam sender. The spam mails From fields all have the format of Interestingly, Thunderbird thought your mail was spam :-D I also notice (looking inside) that your post contains a pkcs7-signature, but Thunderbird doesn't see it. Alpine does see it. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.6 x86_64 at Telcontar) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: OpenPGP_signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 209 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Thu Jul 17 15:28:10 2025 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (Eduardo Chappa via Alpine-info) Date: Thu Jul 17 15:28:20 2025 Subject: [Alpine-info] Filter patterns and whitespace In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <82fc4d58-6a29-25fe-53fa-a8e595f1e692@yandex.com> On Wed, 16 Jul 2025, Ferdinand Goldmann via Alpine-info wrote: > Hi, > > wanted to filter out annoying spam mails using a filter rule on the domain of > the spam sender. The spam mails From fields all have the format of > > From: Annoying Sender@foo.host.com > > where the "@foo.host.com" part is always the same. Have you tried using scores instead? The idea is to give scores to messages based on certain characteristics. All scores are added, so you would filter based on the total score. To avoid the space problem you would define two (or more) score rules where each rule matches each part of the From field that you identified for messages you want to filter. -- Eduardo From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Thu Jul 17 16:44:35 2025 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (Joshua Miller via Alpine-info) Date: Thu Jul 17 16:44:34 2025 Subject: [Alpine-info] Filter patterns and whitespace In-Reply-To: <82fc4d58-6a29-25fe-53fa-a8e595f1e692@yandex.com> References: <82fc4d58-6a29-25fe-53fa-a8e595f1e692@yandex.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Jul 17, 2025 at 6:28?PM Eduardo Chappa via Alpine-info < alpine-info@u.washington.edu> wrote: > On Wed, 16 Jul 2025, Ferdinand Goldmann via Alpine-info wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > wanted to filter out annoying spam mails using a filter rule on the > domain of > > the spam sender. The spam mails From fields all have the format of > > > > From: Annoying Sender@foo.host.com > > > > where the "@foo.host.com" part is always the same. > > Have you tried using scores instead? The idea is to give scores to > messages based on certain characteristics. All scores are added, so you > would filter based on the total score. To avoid the space problem you > would define two (or more) score rules where each rule matches each part > of the From field that you identified for messages you want to filter. > > Perhaps I'm misunderstanding, but I think using a pattern match like "From pattern = @foo.host.com" would do what is being asked. That will match mails coming from "Annoying Sender@foo.host.com" as well as " Bob@foo.host.com". Ferdinand, to see the built in help for this: * M S R F # main setup rules filter * Go down to the "To pattern" field and press "?" to get the help page. Hope that helps, -- Josh I. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Thu Jul 17 16:53:03 2025 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (Bret Busby via Alpine-info) Date: Thu Jul 17 16:50:37 2025 Subject: [Alpine-info] Filter patterns and whitespace In-Reply-To: References: <82fc4d58-6a29-25fe-53fa-a8e595f1e692@yandex.com> Message-ID: <52b58df2-2825-42b6-beeb-f30985048cf5@busby.net> On 18/7/25 07:44, Joshua Miller via Alpine-info wrote: > On Thu, Jul 17, 2025 at 6:28?PM Eduardo Chappa via Alpine-info > > wrote: > > On Wed, 16 Jul 2025, Ferdinand Goldmann via Alpine-info wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > wanted to filter out annoying spam mails using a filter rule on > the domain of > > the spam sender. The spam mails From fields all have the format of > > > > From: Annoying Sender@foo.host.com > > > > where the "@foo.host.com " part is always > the same. > > Have you tried using scores instead? The idea is to give scores to > messages based on certain characteristics. All scores are added, so you > would filter based on the total score. To avoid the space problem you > would define two (or more) score rules where each rule matches each > part > of the From field that you identified for messages you want to filter. > > > Perhaps I'm misunderstanding, but I think using a pattern match like > "From pattern =?@foo.host.com " would do what is > being asked. That will match mails coming from "Annoying > Sender@foo.host.com " as well as > "Bob@foo.host.com ". > Alternatively, if you do not want to filter out everyone in the domain name, simply use, for "From: Annoying Sender@foo.host.com " the parameter Sender@foo.host.com That should work. Try it... .. Bret Busby Armadale West Australia (UTC+0800) .............. From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Fri Jul 18 01:49:42 2025 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (Ferdinand Goldmann via Alpine-info) Date: Fri Jul 18 01:49:47 2025 Subject: [Alpine-info] Filter patterns and whitespace In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1d06096a-1909-dd02-2874-530046920caf@jku.at> On Wed, 16 Jul 2025, Joshua Miller wrote: > Can you share the relevant?lines from your .pinerc? FWIW, I have rules that match on FROM that include a space and > they work. For example: > ? ?LIT:pattern="/NICK=tt/FROM=TT SYSTEM /...etc... That's odd... I have this pattern: LIT:pattern="/NICK=pop.liwest.at/FROM=pop.liwest.at/FLDTYPE=SPEC/FOLDER=INBOX" action="/FILTER=1/FOLDER=\/home\/ferdl\/mail\/000_JUNK/NOKILL=1" and it fails to detect this from line: From: Sleep Apnea NEW@pop.liwest.at :-/ > > > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2025 at 9:31?AM Ferdinand Goldmann via Alpine-info wrote: > Hi, > > wanted to filter out annoying spam mails using a filter rule on the domain of > the spam sender. The spam mails From fields all have the format of > > From: Annoying Sender@foo.host.com > > where the "@foo.host.com" part is always the same. > > It turns out that a rule filtering for foo.host.com does not work. I assume the > problem is the single blank/whitespace between "Annoying" and "Sender". > > Is there any possibility to filter such mails? Or should I rather ask the spam > senders to politely use a valid RfC compliant format for their From addresses? :-) > > Regards > Ferdinand_______________________________________________ > Alpine-info mailing list > Alpine-info@u.washington.edu > http://mailman23.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/alpine-info > > > -- Ferdinand Goldmann System Administrator Information Management JOHANNES KEPLER UNIVERSITY LINZ Altenberger Stra?e 69 Juridicum, J011 B 4040 Linz, Austria P +43 732 2468 3925 ferdinand.goldmann@jku.at www.jku.at/im -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 6023 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature URL: From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Fri Jul 18 07:55:32 2025 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (Joshua Miller via Alpine-info) Date: Fri Jul 18 07:55:32 2025 Subject: [Alpine-info] Filter patterns and whitespace In-Reply-To: <1d06096a-1909-dd02-2874-530046920caf@jku.at> References: <1d06096a-1909-dd02-2874-530046920caf@jku.at> Message-ID: On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 4:49?AM Ferdinand Goldmann via Alpine-info < alpine-info@u.washington.edu> wrote: > On Wed, 16 Jul 2025, Joshua Miller wrote: > > > Can you share the relevant lines from your .pinerc? FWIW, I have rules > that match on FROM that include a space and > > they work. For example: > > LIT:pattern="/NICK=tt/FROM=TT SYSTEM >/...etc... > > That's odd... I have this pattern: > > LIT:pattern="/NICK= > pop.liwest.at/FROM=pop.liwest.at/FLDTYPE=SPEC/FOLDER=INBOX" > action="/FILTER=1/FOLDER=\/home\/ferdl\/mail\/000_JUNK/NOKILL=1" > > and it fails to detect this from line: > > From: Sleep Apnea NEW@pop.liwest.at > > :-/ > > FWIW, I don't see anything wrong with that pattern. I even had alpine create a new .pinerc and added a new rule and it looks pretty much the same: patterns-filters2=LIT:pattern="/NICK=test/FROM= pop.liwest.at/FLDTYPE=SPEC/FOLDER=INBOX" action="/FILTER=1/FOLDER=\/home\/unrtst\/mail\/000_JUNK/NOKILL=1" I'm guessing there's something else causing this. Can you provide some more context and info? Have you looked in the "000_JUNK" file to confirm it didn't get copied there? FYI, the filter should create the message in the new folder and flag the one in INBOX to be deleted, but it won't be expunged (fully deleted) until you call expunge or cleanly exit alpine. Can you provide the full line from your .pinerc (IE: maybe there's a syntax quirk elsewhere on the line)? What exact steps do you take to run the filter? Can you provide the alpine debug log? Can you provide a copy of the spam message (maybe there's something weird with the headers)? Sorry for all the questions, but I don't see anything wrong with what was provided. Thanks, -- Josh I. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Wed Jul 23 03:24:14 2025 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (Christian Kujau via Alpine-info) Date: Wed Jul 23 03:24:22 2025 Subject: [Alpine-info] NULL ice in paint_index_line Message-ID: For a long time now Alpine would sometimes show the following in its status bar below: NULL ice in paint_index_line: reg index, msgno=9,238 line=41 The "mesgno" keeps changing while this notice is being displayed. When this happens, i.e. when this notice is displayed, one can use Alpine...somewhat. I can change folders, and scroll through messages, but not always. Sometimes key presses are ignored and Alpine appears stuck. If I'm lucky I can QUIT Alpine in an orderly fashion, but most of time the times I find myself TERMinating the Alpine process in another terminal window. I usually have Alpine running on a headless Linux host in a long running GNU/screen session, and always suspected this to be related to maybe Alpine getting confused about its screen size or something and I have ignored it for some years now. But I noticed that this keeps happening more often now and switch from GNU/screen to Tmux, but that dreaded notice appears again, and again. So, it does not seem to be related to its use within GNU/screen or Tmux. Also, I switched from Gnome Terminal (under Fedora Linux) to Terminal.app (macOS) some time ago, but that does not seem to be related to that notice either, Alpine still displays it more often than not :( I'm tracking the latest Alpine version from Git (currently 2e10831) and compile it myself on this Linux machine: ./configure --prefix=/opt/alpine --disable-debug --disable-mouse \ --disable-keyboard-lock --without-krb5 --without-ldap --without-tcl \ --without-ntlm --with-ssl --with-default-dead-letter-folder=.dead-letter I have found but a single email posting[0] on this list from February 2024 where this notice is mentioned too, but the issue wasn't discussed much. Does anyone have an idea what's going on here, and why this notice would occur? And how to prevent this from happening, maybe? :-) Thanks, Christian. [0] https://mailman23.u.washington.edu/pipermail/alpine-info/2024-February/000429.html -- BOFH excuse #430: Mouse has out-of-cheese-error From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Wed Jul 23 10:31:06 2025 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (Eduardo Chappa via Alpine-info) Date: Wed Jul 23 10:31:25 2025 Subject: [Alpine-info] NULL ice in paint_index_line In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4b125715-5153-cd29-1ee8-931e39174a65@yandex.com> On Wed, 23 Jul 2025, Christian Kujau via Alpine-info wrote: > For a long time now Alpine would sometimes show the following in its > status bar below: > > NULL ice in paint_index_line: reg index, msgno=9,238 line=41 > [....] > I'm tracking the latest Alpine version from Git (currently 2e10831) and > compile it myself on this Linux machine: > > ./configure --prefix=/opt/alpine --disable-debug --disable-mouse \ > --disable-keyboard-lock --without-krb5 --without-ldap --without-tcl \ > --without-ntlm --with-ssl --with-default-dead-letter-folder=.dead-letter > my suggestion is to quit alpine, restart it, go to the configuration screen and set Status Message Delay = -1 then reproduce the problem, and once it has happened, go to the main screen, press J, then set the debug level to 9 and find what is happening before the problem begins. I hope this helps. -- Eduardo From alpine-info at u.washington.edu Wed Jul 23 11:14:39 2025 From: alpine-info at u.washington.edu (Christian Kujau via Alpine-info) Date: Wed Jul 23 11:14:45 2025 Subject: [Alpine-info] NULL ice in paint_index_line In-Reply-To: <4b125715-5153-cd29-1ee8-931e39174a65@yandex.com> References: <4b125715-5153-cd29-1ee8-931e39174a65@yandex.com> Message-ID: <327e59b4-80b0-aed7-bce6-3fb1c7f187ea@nerdbynature.de> On Wed, 23 Jul 2025, Eduardo Chappa via Alpine-info wrote: > Status Message Delay = -1 OK, I did that, and I'm now waiting for this to happen again. Sometimes this takes a day or two, sometimes a week, I haven't really kept a log on this :-) Thanks for your response, will report back when the issue reappears. Christian. -- BOFH excuse #265: The mouse escaped. 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I think I've added my client-ID (painfully, cut and paste doesn't work) but have seen nothing about a client-secret (it remained at the default setting). And I don't know how to get back to that screen. When Alpine tries going to the GMail account I get the error: "Access blocked: Alpine has not completed the Google verification process". Can anyone help me with this? George -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: