[Alpine-info] "[MAIL FOLDER "INBOX" CLOSED DUE TO ACCESS ERROR]"
Barry Landy via Alpine-info
alpine-info at u.washington.edu
Thu Feb 6 04:23:55 PST 2025
I notice this only has an effect if "Enable Incoming Folders Checking"
is set. Maybe unset that (if it is set)?
On Thu, 6 Feb 2025, Thomas Gramstad wrote:
:>
:>I changed "Incoming Check Timeout" from 1500 to 30. This has
:>greatly reduced the problem. Not eliminated it, but it happens
:>much less frequently.
:>
:>Thanks for the TCP values, I'll add those too.
:>
:>PS: Also, the > and then choose INBOX folder works too -- not
:>necessary to quit or logout+login.
:>
:>Thomas
:>
:>
:>On Wed, 5 Feb 2025, Barry Landy via Alpine-info wrote:
:>
:>> I experimented with some settings which have helped a lot but not cured
:>> the problem completely.
:>>
:>> the settings are
:>>
:>> mail checkinterval has always been large
:>>
:>> TCP open timeout = 100
:>> TCP query timeout = 100
:>> TCP close connection timeout=150
:>> (this i first made 100 then raised it)
:>>
:>> I put these in individually and observed effects.
:>>
:>> I still get the dread message occasionally with no common factor that I
:>> can spot. I would be greateful for other suggestions of what to try.
:>>
:>> FYI I am running under Windows (11) and not UNix.
:>>
:>>
:>>
:>> On Sun, 2 Feb 2025, Barry Landy via Alpine-info wrote:
:>>
:>> :>I have exactly the same problem for exactly the same reason.
:>> :>
:>> :>Not due to mail check interval as that was already large.
:>> :>
:>> :>I am extremely interested to know if any of you get anywhere with
:>> :>setting timeout values.
:>> :>
:>> :>
:>> :>On Sun, 2 Feb 2025, Thomas Gramstad via Alpine-info wrote:
:>> :>
:>> :>:>
:>> :>:>Thank you Milt, those links were very informative!
:>> :>:>
:>> :>:>Then I checked all the timeout values in my config:
:>> :>:>
:>> :>:>I have Check incoming mail interval at 15 seconds, and
:>> :>:>vaguely remember there was a reason for that many years
:>> :>:>ago.
:>> :>:>
:>> :>:>I have at least 4 TCP-related timeouts, but they are all
:>> :>:>set at "No Value". I suspect I should do something about
:>> :>:>that. What does "No Value" mean for those?
:>> :>:>
:>> :>:>Then there is this one, which I have no idea what means:
:>> :>:>
:>> :>:>User Input Timeout = <No Value Set: using "0">
:>> :>:>
:>> :>:>There are a few others (like "Rsh timeout") which sound
:>> :>:>less relevant.
:>> :>:>
:>> :>:>So there seem to be quite a few more timeouts in Alpine now than
:>> :>:>in 2016.
:>> :>:>
:>> :>:>(By "logging into Alpine" I meant the OAuth thing which requires
:>> :>:>me to enter a password that it has stored.)
:>> :>:>
:>> :>:>I'll try the < up one level thing the next time the disconnect
:>> :>:>occurs.
:>> :>:>
:>> :>:>But please advise about the 4 TCP settings above.
:>> :>:>
:>> :>:>Thomas Gramstad
:>> :>:>
:>> :>:>
:>> :>:>On Sun, 2 Feb 2025, Milt Epstein via Alpine-info wrote:
:>> :>:>
:>> :>:>> I didn't think I had anything to say about this because I haven't
:>> :>:>> experienced this error, but then I found a reference to this error
:>> :>:>> message in my saved mail, in an old thread on this mailing list (from
:>> :>:>> January 28, 2016).
:>> :>:>>
:>> :>:>> So I went to the mailing list info url in each list message:
:>> :>:>>
:>> :>:>> http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/alpine-info
:>> :>:>>
:>> :>:>> and went to the list archives. But the list archives there only goes
:>> :>:>> back about three years. But I did find a list archive at marc.info:
:>> :>:>>
:>> :>:>> https://marc.info/?l=alpine-info&r=1&w=2
:>> :>:>>
:>> :>:>> And then from January 2016:
:>> :>:>>
:>> :>:>> https://marc.info/?l=alpine-info&r=1&b=201601&w=2
:>> :>:>>
:>> :>:>> And then the thread in question ([Alpine-info] Best timeout settings
:>> :>:>> for connecting to Exchange server?):
:>> :>:>>
:>> :>:>> https://marc.info/?t=145399947700006&r=1&w=2
:>> :>:>>
:>> :>:>> You might take a look at that to see if there's anything helpful
:>> :>:>> there.
:>> :>:>>
:>> :>:>> Also, people's suggestion to back out of the folder (using "<") and
:>> :>:>> re-enter it (rather than quitting Alpine) seems worth a try.
:>> :>:>>
:>> :>:>> BTW, what do you mean by "log in to Alpine"? (Because one doesn't
:>> :>:>> really have to log in to alpine. Probably you're having alpine
:>> :>:>> connect to some mail server -- which may be relevant to getting that
:>> :>:>> error message; but it does seem that others replying to your message
:>> :>:>> have figured that out.)
:>> :>:>>
:>> :>:>> Milt Epstein
:>> :>:>> mepstein at illinois.edu
:>> :>:>>
:>> :>:>>
:>> :>:>> On Sun, 2 Feb 2025, Thomas Gramstad via Alpine-info wrote:
:>> :>:>>
:>> :>:>> > The Subject: line is an error message that I get very often
:>> :>:>> > in Alpine, like several times per hour:
:>> :>:>> >
:>> :>:>> > [MAIL FOLDER "INBOX" CLOSED DUE TO ACCESS ERROR]
:>> :>:>> >
:>> :>:>> > When this happens, in the folder I am in I can still see the
:>> :>:>> > numbered list of messages, but if I try to open a message to read
:>> :>:>> > it, there is nothing to read. I then have to quit Alpine, start
:>> :>:>> > Alpine a new, and log in to Alpine, and then I can read the
:>> :>:>> > messages.
:>> :>:>> >
:>> :>:>> > This frequent need to quit and restart is annoying. Is there
:>> :>:>> > something I can do to prevent, or at least reduce the number of
:>> :>:>> > such incidents? Like checking something more often, or less
:>> :>:>> > often, or switch something off?
:>> :>:>> >
:>> :>:>> > Thomas Gramstad
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