[Alpine-info] "[MAIL FOLDER "INBOX" CLOSED DUE TO ACCESS ERROR]"

[Barry Landy via Alpine-info]

I experimented with some settings which have helped a lot but not cured 
the problem completely.

the settings are

mail checkinterval has always been large

TCP open timeout = 100
TCP query timeout = 100
TCP close connection timeout=150 
(this i first made 100 then raised it)

I put these in individually and observed effects.

I still get the dread message occasionally with no common factor that I 
can spot. I would be greateful for other suggestions of what to try.

FYI I am running under Windows (11) and not UNix.



On Sun, 2 Feb 2025, Barry Landy via Alpine-info wrote:


:>I have exactly the same problem for exactly the same reason. 

:>

:>Not due to mail check interval as that was already large.

:>

:>I am extremely interested to know if any of you get anywhere with 

:>setting timeout values.

:>

:>

:>On Sun, 2 Feb 2025, Thomas Gramstad via Alpine-info wrote:

:>

:>:>

:>:>Thank you Milt, those links were very informative!

:>:>

:>:>Then I checked all the timeout values in my config:

:>:>

:>:>I have Check incoming mail interval at 15 seconds, and

:>:>vaguely remember there was a reason for that many years

:>:>ago.

:>:>

:>:>I have at least 4 TCP-related timeouts, but they are all

:>:>set at "No Value". I suspect I should do something about

:>:>that. What does "No Value" mean for those?

:>:>

:>:>Then there is this one, which I have no idea what means:

:>:>

:>:>User Input Timeout              = <No Value Set: using "0"> 

:>:>

:>:>There are a few others (like "Rsh timeout") which sound

:>:>less relevant.

:>:>

:>:>So there seem to be quite a few more timeouts in Alpine now than 

:>:>in 2016.

:>:>

:>:>(By "logging into Alpine" I meant the OAuth thing which requires

:>:>me to enter a password that it has stored.)

:>:>

:>:>I'll try the < up one level thing the next time the disconnect 

:>:>occurs.

:>:>

:>:>But please advise about the 4 TCP settings above.

:>:>

:>:>Thomas Gramstad

:>:>

:>:>

:>:>On Sun, 2 Feb 2025, Milt Epstein via Alpine-info wrote:

:>:>

:>:>> I didn't think I had anything to say about this because I haven't

:>:>> experienced this error, but then I found a reference to this error

:>:>> message in my saved mail, in an old thread on this mailing list (from

:>:>> January 28, 2016).

:>:>> 

:>:>> So I went to the mailing list info url in each list message:

:>:>> 

:>:>> http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/alpine-info

:>:>> 

:>:>> and went to the list archives.  But the list archives there only goes

:>:>> back about three years.  But I did find a list archive at marc.info:

:>:>> 

:>:>> https://marc.info/?l=alpine-info&r=1&w=2

:>:>> 

:>:>> And then from January 2016:

:>:>> 

:>:>> https://marc.info/?l=alpine-info&r=1&b=201601&w=2

:>:>> 

:>:>> And then the thread in question ([Alpine-info] Best timeout settings

:>:>> for connecting to Exchange server?):

:>:>> 

:>:>> https://marc.info/?t=145399947700006&r=1&w=2

:>:>> 

:>:>> You might take a look at that to see if there's anything helpful

:>:>> there.

:>:>> 

:>:>> Also, people's suggestion to back out of the folder (using "<") and

:>:>> re-enter it (rather than quitting Alpine) seems worth a try.

:>:>> 

:>:>> BTW, what do you mean by "log in to Alpine"?  (Because one doesn't

:>:>> really have to log in to alpine.  Probably you're having alpine

:>:>> connect to some mail server -- which may be relevant to getting that

:>:>> error message; but it does seem that others replying to your message

:>:>> have figured that out.)

:>:>> 

:>:>> Milt Epstein

:>:>> mepstein at illinois.edu

:>:>> 

:>:>> 

:>:>> On Sun, 2 Feb 2025, Thomas Gramstad via Alpine-info wrote:

:>:>> 

:>:>> > The Subject: line is an error message that I get very often

:>:>> > in Alpine, like several times per hour:

:>:>> > 

:>:>> > [MAIL FOLDER "INBOX" CLOSED DUE TO ACCESS ERROR]

:>:>> > 

:>:>> > When this happens, in the folder I am in I can still see the 

:>:>> > numbered list of messages, but if I try to open a message to read 

:>:>> > it, there is nothing to read. I then have to quit Alpine, start 

:>:>> > Alpine a new, and log in to Alpine, and then I can read the 

:>:>> > messages.

:>:>> > 

:>:>> > This frequent need to quit and restart is annoying. Is there 

:>:>> > something I can do to prevent, or at least reduce the number of 

:>:>> > such incidents? Like checking something more often, or less 

:>:>> > often, or switch something off?

:>:>> > 

:>:>> > Thomas Gramstad

:>:>> > _______________________________________________

:>:>> > Alpine-info mailing list

:>:>> > Alpine-info at u.washington.edu

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:>:>> > 

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